Faith Aloud’s Victimization Complex

So is 40 Days For Life a threat? Let’s talk about it on Deeper Waters.

A group called Faith Aloud has a counter to 40 Days For Life called 40 Days For Choice. They have written on their web site (link below) about what 40 Days For Life is and that it is an intimidation force. Is this an accurate way to picture them?

Let’s start with the perspective of the person working for 40 Days For Life. Abortion is murder for them. Every single time a woman enters who’s pregnant, there’s a possibility that one person could not be coming out of their alive, and that would be the baby in the womb. What would you be willing to do within the teachings of Christ to stop that? 40 Days For Life believes in showing the love of Christ to such and let them know there are people who love them and are willing to take care of them and help them through this time.

Faith Aloud says that it is not loving to bring crowds of people to judge women in private decisions. The reality is that there is not judgment of women but judgment of abortion. And furthermore, since when it is that judgment exactly became a stigma in our nation?

I don’t know about anyone else, but when Mr. and Mrs. Peters go to bed at night, we lock the doors to our house. Right now, our car is in the driveway and the doors are locked. Whenever we have children, we plan on making a few judgments on who will get to babysit them.

Judgment is necessary and what the Choice group is saying to the Life group is essentially that their opinion does not matter. It is saying that they are not allowed to have that opinion publicly shown to those who think contrary.

Today as I was in a small grocery store here in the Tennessee area, I heard “The Old Rugged Cross” playing. Now let us suppose I heard something that I thought was offensive. Aside from it maybe being something sexually explicit or endorsing violence that I think would be harmful to kids, I don’t really say anything.

My thinking? It could be something annoying but so what? I can just make the choice we’re all told to make in Elementary School, and that’s the choice to ignore. It’s amazing that an age where people are always told to “Believe in yourself” also seems to have this message that you need to be concerned about what other people think.

Instead, today we play the victim game. It’s done constantly in the media. People who want to get ahead can easily paint themselves as victims. The best way to silence the opposition is to paint yourselves as a victim to them. After all, who wants to side with a bully?

This is not to say that victimization and bullying does not occur, but simple disagreement is not enough to qualify for that. Having another group disagree with you is not intimidation. If people thinking about getting abortions are reacting, could it be because they’re honestly realizing that what they’re doing is wrong and they have second thoughts?

Let’s suppose they say “Well Nick, how would you like it if we had several people come from Faith Aloud while you were at 40 Days For Life? Would you like that?”

I think my reply to this would be “Do you promise to?”

Seriously. I want them there. I want them there in droves. I want them to come and present the case for abortion and let us present the case against abortion. I would be absolutely thrilled. After all, a person confident in their position does not need to worry about being “intimidated.”

Perhaps instead of trying to silence by mischaracterization, Faith Aloud will be able to present an argument about why 40 Days For Life has a wrong stance on abortion if they think the can. Maybe they want the intimidation tactic because the argument is weak?

In Christ,
Nick Peters

The Crime Of Existence

I’m going to be taking a break from the Trinity series to write on a topic that I was pondering last night. My roommate and I had dinner with friends from our church because their son was writing a paper on abortion and he wanted to have a good interview. I was asked if I’d like to be interviewed on the topic and said I’d be glad to help. I’m also pleased to see a Christian willing to take a stand in a public high school on the topic of abortion.

Later that evening, I was talking to a friend of mine who is a widowed mother and we were talking about the topic of abortion and I stated that I believe abortion is one of the most anti-feminine practices out there. Giving birth is the most feminine thing a woman can do that I can think of. This is something unique to her and something that is truly miraculous. The idea of a woman getting abortion actually helps turn her into an object. It means a man can have his way with her and he does not need to fear the consequences.

As I was getting set for bed last night, I happened to find lying on a bookcase a Christmas card that friends of ours from our church gave us. It has their daughter, who was 2 at the time and could still very well be, standing in front of their Christmas tree smiling. It’s upon seeing a picture like that that the idea usually hits home. 

I often speak of the wonder of what is. While some may speak of the problem of evil, the problem of evil distracts from what ought to be. It takes away from something. It eliminates in a sense, its “is-ness.” A hole in a garment keeps the garment from fulfilling its purpose to the best of its ability. Evil in my life keeps me from fulfilling my purpose to the best of my ability.

This little girl is and I see the picture and I wonder. What’s in store for her for the future? I already know her mother is pregnant again and what is going to be going on when the new baby is born? Will this little girl understand that this other person came about the same way that she did? While she may not know the facts of life, and I seriously doubt she does, will she understand when she sees a birth taking place that she entered the world the same way?

What about all the friends that she will make in her lifetime? What kind of education is she going to receive? What will happen when she gets to Middle School? Are the guys going to start noticing her? Is she going to start noticing them? Will she have a sweet sixteen where she gets her own car and drives to the mall with her friends? Will she go to her senior prom? Will she go to college? Will she get married and have a family of her own?

All of these questions are questions we can ask of young men and women, although for some we will certainly reverse the roles for men. Yet for each human being, there is a chance that those questions might never have been asked. There is the sad possibility that some people might choose to eliminate the pregnancy to begin with.

I am well aware many people could bring up arguments such as rape or incest or anacephalic babies. Those are different issues and I think most of us would agree that most abortions do not happen for those reasons nor do I want it to be the case that we take the exceptions and make a normative doctrine out of the exceptions.

We could easily say that sadly, most of the time, abortions are done for the sake of convenience in some way. Maybe the mother thinks she can’t afford a child. Maybe she’s being pressured by a man in her life. Maybe, sadly, she just wants to have the “pleasures” of being able to have sexual intercourse without consequence.

For that, the baby in the womb is an interference. The baby is guilty of a crime. What is that crime? The baby exists. The existence of the baby is am impediment to some other good that someone else has in mind. 

It is certainly the case that being able to have sexual intercourse is a good and sexual intercourse itself is a good. It certainly is the case that not having to be abused in some way by a significant other is a good. It is certainly the case that a woman being able to be financially secure is a good. The problem in each of these areas is taking the things that are goods and putting them over being good.

How is it that removing the existence (Though I as a Christian believes the child aborted exists regardless as they have souls that will go somewhere and I leave that in the hands of God) of a child in the womb helps someone to be good? Remember, I’m not asking if it brings about goods, because the only reason we do any action is because we believe ultimately it will bring about some good. I am asking if it helps the person having the abortion to be good.

If we have a society that teaches people it is okay to eliminate people just because they are an inconvenience in some way, are we going to produce a society of people that are good? If all we are about is obtaining goods, such as pleasure, money, or sex, then should it be a shock if we end up with such a society? We should not complain about the immorality of society if we have been indulging in this idea that having goods is more important than being good.

It will not do to push the responsibility to another. For instance, someone might say “Why don’t you go and adopt?” For one thing, I have a roommate and both of us are men and frankly, I think a child in the best situation needs a mother and a father and we can’t do that. Furthermore, we are financially incapable at this time. Having a child is expensive. We are aware of that, which is why the best case would be for people to be responsible with their sexuality and realize that actions have possible consequences and an act like abortion is simply a way of denying the reality of those consequences, at the cost of the life of an innocent child.

Another analogy can work at this point. I am an animal lover and particularly, unlike many guys, I like cats. I parked here at our apartment complex recently and it was raining and there at a neighbor’s door I see a cat outside meowing. Now this cat has a collar so it obviously belongs to someone else, but my heart is moved instantly and I just go over and pet the soaked kitty. Now if I was following the logic of pro-abortionists on this point, I would be at the humane society adopting every single cat that I could. As much as I love cats, that would not be proper. I would not be able to take care of them all. Hopefully someday though, our financial situation will be the type where maybe we can adopt a pet, or I might have to wait until I get married someday.

In the meantime, I can show love to the animals that I meet in my life and cultivate a sense of care for them. I’m not going to put them at the level of humans, but I am not going to put them at the level of rocks either. I believe they’re special gifts of delight God put on Earth for not only our enjoyment, but his enjoyment as well. In doing those things, I am learning to be good.

I simply desire the pro-abortionist to consider their point and ask themselves this question. How is it that the destruction of innocent human life is going to go about producing a society of people that are good? How will it teach us to value life? Will it teach us a proper role of sexuality? Is there even a proper role of sexuality? Is it merely an activity done solely for pleasure? Is having sexual intercourse on the first date for pleasure just the same as the guy kissing the girl on the first date? Why? What does it mean if anything? If it doesn’t mean anything, why care at all about it?

Every day, many women enter abortion clinics and every day, many children die while never getting to see the light of day. They will never grow up and explore the world and learn about its wonder. They will never have a sixteenth birthday, drive a car, go to prom, have an education, or get married and have their own family. Why? For what purpose are we saying it is good to have the freedom to put them to death?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Abortion And The Election

Like many of you, I did watch the presidential debate last night. I’ve been avoiding writing on it often, but there are times that I think that a man can’t stay silent. My blog isn’t about politics specifically though. It’s about the Christian faith. However, the two do often intersect. The way I see it, by my nature, I am a human being first. My religious heritage is next in importance as I am a Christian. My national heritage comes after that in that I am an American. Finally, my political tradition is next and in case you haven’t guessed, I am a strong Republican conservative.

I am quite concerned with this election. We have had leftist candidates before, but I don’t think we’ve ever had anyone as left as Barack Obama. If there is one issue though where we often here talk about faith and politics intersecting, it is in the topic of abortion. Fortunately, that was an issue that was raised in the debate last night.

One ironic statement made was that this should be a woman’s decision. The irony is that this reeked of a post I made recently here:

Ironically, a lone comment there raised some points about that post I agree with. I have to agree that it is a very dumb argument, but I brought it up because we often do encounter dumb arguments and some of them are so dumb we’re not even sure how to answer them. The following is the comment that was made:

These types of discussions– arguing against a lame “uterus” argument from a woman who is an idiot and happens to be pro-choice only helps to perpetuate a trivialization of a woman’s ability to choose. I don’t think I would trust this person with any decision. Of course it seems ridiculous to trust this woman to make a decision about life. Seems like a cheap foundation to build a pro-life argument on.

Pointing to child support as a man’s responsibility is not necessarily the case, and turns the woman into a victim– who would trust such a victim with the responsibility to make a decision about life (since she clearly cannot care for a child on her own). Making an argument against choice using this ridiculous pro-choice person, and irrelevant financial and circumcision decisions is a waste. Pick a real and logically sounds pro-lifer’s argument to discuss, please.


Of course, this wasn’t the only thing said by Obama last night. For the rest of what I say, I am largely in debt to Francis Beckwith, an excellent philosopher with a great book called “Defending Life” that anyone wanting to defend the life of the unborn should read. His blog at called “Southern Appeal” has an article and now a response to a critic from Robert George. Who is that? Let’s see what the article says about him in description.

Robert P. George is McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence and Director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton University. He is a member of the President’s Council on Bioethics and previously served on the United States Commission on Civil Rights. He sits on the editorial board of Public Discourse. 

I just wish to bring out some highlights. In his first essay, Robert George points out that not only is Obama pro-choice (Though I prefer pro-abortion), he is the most pro-choice candidate we have ever had and each time you think things have gone as far as they could, George assures you that they get worse. I urge all concerned voters to read the article. Robert George has done his homework.

In another article though, he responds to a critic and speaks about what Obama said related to a Born Alive Act last night. The law was seen to be inadequate and didn’t really deal with the situation as it was still a judgment call on the part of the doctor. This is why a nurse like Jill Stanek found a dying baby in a soiled linen closet.

While an act that followed at the start of the 21st century did well in D.C., it didn’t so well in the Illinois Senate. Some were concerned that abortion rights would be limited if the bill were allowed to pass. The most prominent one and the only one that actually spoke against it when it was being debated was Obama.

Even when it was changed so that there was a neutrality aspect to identity and said nothing about the legal status of a human being before birth, it was still voted down. Obama was leading the charge.

Friends. I say this because frankly, I’m concerned. Abortion isn’t my only issue when I go to the polls, but it’s a big one. I do have a dream of seeing Roe V. Wade overturned someday and I do believe that that will come about by getting people who will at least be open to the pro-life position. This is especially true with the Supreme Court where the trouble originally began.

I also think that when I vote, I want to keep in mind that there are future lives at risk. Is the next generation going to be around to see the fruit of my voting? For me, voting is an honor and a privilege. I get to take part in the leadership of this great nation that I have been blessed to be a part of. This is how the system works. Rest assured, I have no problem with abortionists going out there and making their case and wanting people to vote their way. That’s part of how the system works. All voices are to be heard in the public square and we are to debate the issue and respond accordingly.

My hope is that when you go to the polls though, if this is an issue for you as it is for me, you will have the facts there. As I have said, this is an issue for me and I don’t even enjoy writing largely in a political way, but I just don’t think I can stay silent any more.